# Initial Dvorak Layout

**URL:** <https://community.keyboard.io/t/initial-dvorak-layout/13>\
**Category:** Model 01 Layouts\
**Created:** [November 1, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/initial-dvorak-layout/13 "2016-11-01T00:03:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![bjn](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.keyboard.io/bjn/32/5337_2.png) [@bjn](https://community.keyboard.io/u/bjn)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/initial-dvorak-layout/13/106 "2016-11-16T23:56:18Z")

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Well what I’m trying to do here is avoid making arbitrary changes from the default qwerty layout for “extra” keys such as LED and prog and and num.

Go take a read through the [default qwerty thread](https://community.keyboard.io/t/default-qwerty-layout-and-how-it-relates-to-alternate-layouts/128) which I linked, in particular Jesse’s posts. I’m just trying to find a lowest common denominator here.

Having said that, I asked just now over in that thread whether those shaded-grey keys accurately reflect what Jesse would ideally like to stay the same between layouts. If he says no, I’ll of course adjust as necessary and we may have more room to play.

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