# NumPad colouring problems and turning it off **URL:** \ **Category:** Help and Getting Started\ **Created:** [July 27, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/numpad-colouring-problems-and-turning-it-off/1844 "2018-07-27T04:37:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jamadagni](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.keyboard.io/jamadagni/32/2030_2.png) [@jamadagni](https://community.keyboard.io/u/jamadagni)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/numpad-colouring-problems-and-turning-it-off/1844/1 "2018-07-27T04:37:24Z")
I want to turn off the colouring effect caused by the NumPad plugin. I thought that merely placing the NumPad plugin before the LED effects in the `KALEIDOSCOPE_INIT_PLUGINS` would be sufficient but I find that this does not work. 1. If the current LED effect is a solid colour, it gets overpainted by the NumPad colours. 2. If it is Rainbow or Breathe, the rest of the keys go black. Is it worth to create a PR to add a boolean toggle for the NumPad plugin to avoid doing the colouring? The plugin is still needed to handle the numlock state so I can’t avoid including it in toto! ---
**Author:** ![algernon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.keyboard.io/algernon/32/4404_2.png) [@algernon](https://community.keyboard.io/u/algernon)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/numpad-colouring-problems-and-turning-it-off/1844/2 "2018-07-27T06:25:29Z")
Wouldn’t a macro that toggles `NumLock` and the layer work? ---
**Author:** ![jamadagni](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.keyboard.io/jamadagni/32/2030_2.png) [@jamadagni](https://community.keyboard.io/u/jamadagni)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/numpad-colouring-problems-and-turning-it-off/1844/3 "2018-07-27T06:45:59Z")
Works for ordinary switching to and from lock layer numpad but doesn’t work with a Qukey based temporary shift to layer numpad. Possibly this is because a macro especially one containing numlock isn’t a modifier. ---
**Author:** ![jamadagni](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.keyboard.io/jamadagni/32/2030_2.png) [@jamadagni](https://community.keyboard.io/u/jamadagni)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 7:21am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/numpad-colouring-problems-and-turning-it-off/1844/4 "2018-07-27T07:21:27Z")
Also consider the case of the person who wants to use **ColorMap** or such to highlight the numpad layer keys with more detail, such as a different color to the operators. And I have some editing shortcuts added to that layer as they are obscured by the overlay otherwise, and they aren’t highlighted since their flags aren’t off as I asked in the other thread. Adding all this customizability to the existing numpad plugin would lead to the point where all this LED-related functionality really belongs in a separate **LEDEffect-NumPad** plugin… ---
**Author:** ![jamadagni](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.keyboard.io/jamadagni/32/2030_2.png) [@jamadagni](https://community.keyboard.io/u/jamadagni)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/numpad-colouring-problems-and-turning-it-off/1844/5 "2018-07-27T08:29:44Z")
> [@jamadagni](#): > > doesn’t work with a Qukey based temporary shift to layer numpad. I tried a workaround by bracketing all the number keys in that layer by `LSHIFT` so I may not need to use `KeypadNumlock` either explicitly in a macro or indirectly via the plugin, but: 1. that’s a kludge 2. it is behaving erratically and I don’t have time to debug that. The easiest thing to do is to use the plugin, but turn off its LED effect. ---
**Author:** ![jamadagni](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.keyboard.io/jamadagni/32/2030_2.png) [@jamadagni](https://community.keyboard.io/u/jamadagni)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/numpad-colouring-problems-and-turning-it-off/1844/6 "2018-08-07T03:27:10Z")
[https://github.com/keyboardio/Kaleidoscope-NumPad/pull/16](https://github.com/keyboardio/Kaleidoscope-NumPad/pull/16)