# Shiftless Punctuation and Numbers
**URL:** https://community.keyboard.io/t/shiftless-punctuation-and-numbers/4448
**Category:** Help and Getting Started
**Created:** [December 12, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/shiftless-punctuation-and-numbers/4448 "2020-12-12T17:59:50Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@SeoSpeedwagon](https://community.keyboard.io/u/SeoSpeedwagon)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/shiftless-punctuation-and-numbers/4448/1 "2020-12-12T17:59:51Z")
I have the Keyboardio Atreus and I’d like to be able hold down the puncuation and number keys in order to get their shifted characters. It’d be great to be able to configure how long that hold needs to be as well. I had that on an Ergodox-ez and can’t seem to figure out how to do it on the Chrysalis configurator.
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### Author:  [@Rom1deTroyes](https://community.keyboard.io/u/Rom1deTroyes)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/shiftless-punctuation-and-numbers/4448/4 "2020-12-13T09:33:57Z")
Blank keycaps are really great 🙂
But, like for Model01, [Linear-A](https://twitter.com/keyboardio/status/1337527909817323520) will be even better 🕰
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### Author:  [@merlin](https://community.keyboard.io/u/merlin)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/shiftless-punctuation-and-numbers/4448/5 "2020-12-13T18:53:47Z")
You can get shifted keys by holding past a timeout with Qukeys, but the necessary configuration can’t be done via Chrysalis.
For this particular use-case a dedicated plugin would be a better solution, though. It wouldn’t be very difficult to write, but it would have a big downside: it would make it impossible to get repeating unshifted characters for any of the affected keycodes.
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### Author:  [@SeoSpeedwagon](https://community.keyboard.io/u/SeoSpeedwagon)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/shiftless-punctuation-and-numbers/4448/6 "2020-12-13T19:06:26Z")
Doesn’t sound like a downside to me. I don’t often hold down a key to get repeating characters. I’ll look into that QuKeys thing. Glad I don’t have to try and install alternative firmware.
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### Author:  [@eloyesp](https://community.keyboard.io/u/eloyesp)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://community.keyboard.io/t/shiftless-punctuation-and-numbers/4448/7 "2020-12-16T02:58:49Z")
I thought the same, but there are many keys that you hold to repeat (space and backspace for example) and there are keys that are typed too fast making it act as a modifier instead of two different key-presses, so choose those QuKeys wisely.