Share your layout

It’s been a while since your post here, but this is close to what I’m looking for. Would you mind, and is there a way you can share a link so I can fork your layout?
KEYMAPS defs too, would be greatly appreciated!

"Want punctuation on thumb keys - the (m)s stand for macros, they’re not yet functional but the intention is to do the punctuation, a space and a one shot shift, "
I’m interested how to do it (I tried some stuffs without success). I created a topic on it in Plugins section How to create a macro like typing Space then OSM(LeftShift) with OneShot plugin

All of this was super helpful to me, thanks! I posted my config info here:

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Is a keyboard-layout-editor.com layout for the default QWERTY layout available somewhere?

It seems like a useful tool for displaying layouts, but I suspect many people would start with a default layout as a starting point and make a few minor modifications from there. I just want a nice way to show an alternate layout of thumb keys, it would be nice not to have to specify all the other default keys and their Fn alternatives etc!

Well, since I’ve received my M01, I’ve been doing fiddling and finally have reached a layout that’s more or less going to remain constant. Notes:

  • Slightly modified Dvorak - U and I switched
  • I aim to move my fingers off the three main rows as little as possible. This means that there’s no top row on any layout (except QWERTY, if my gf needs to use my workstation in a pinch).
  • Numpad and F-keys on L-FN
  • Symbols on R-FN with a bit of tap-dance on bracket (once for round, twice for square). These were calculated with a character frequency counter for the programming languages I use and put on the respective fingers based on finger strength and travel… with a nod towards vim as well.
  • There’s a few dual-keys because it makes life easier for me (ie. tap for ESC, hold for CTRL)
  • Pinkies have at max three keys to press; similarly, ring finger going to bottom row is awkward for me so I have it doing that as little as possible
  • R-FN + ALT or SHIFT takes me to a ‘media’ or ‘arrow’ layer respectively.
  • Copy/Paste and Undo/Redo… don’t know how I feel about it… it’s an experiment. We’ll see.

I think there’s some great functionality left to get out of some remapping but they’ll always adhere to these general ideas for ergonomics.

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This is my layout, fully one-handed, inspired by the FrogPad layout and adapted to German and French use. I am using it on a Mac, so it is designed in a way that I can easily use shortcuts such as + to jump between windows or + space to get to Spotlight instead of having to move my hand to the trackpad. Oh yes, and since my surname is annoying to type with such a “frogboardio” layout, it has a Macro with my surname. :hugs:

(Sorry for the bulky design, was too lazy to translate it into the layout editor…)

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OK! I posted earlier today about the layout I was working on, but then saw some really cool ideas and went back to the drawing board. Mostly I’m concerned with the thumb buttons, but am also concerned the placement of a few other things. Anyway, my layout.

I’m on a mac and got used to my mac special keys on the left. I never use the command/etc on the right side, and instead of learning too much new stuff at once, I moved all those keys to the left thumb. Ctrl, Otion, Command, Shift.

The right thumb has some more interesting stuff happening. Shift, Tab, Space, = in regular mode. Shift, Bksp, Enter, - in function mode.

In programming I do a ton of “=” and “-” and “_”, but the standard layout kind of banishes those keys to an odd place. Moving them to the thumb might be too much, but we’ll see.

I moved the arrow keys so they have the inverted T in the home row, which means the curly bracket gets bumped to the left. I have no desire to relearn arrows. I saw that one row layout on some 60% mech keyboards, and apparently popular with vim? Just too many years to switch now.

The tab key gets mapped to backtick in function. This seems like an odd choice, but on a mac, atl-tab switches between windows, but alt-backtick switches between windows of the same process (toggling between Chrome windows, for example). This kind of throws off mouse warp, but I still have a lot of mouse thinking to do anyway.

The only other mod currently is pgdn turns into Shift in function. This makes navigating and selecting text much easier. In mac, command and option let you make line and word boundary cursor movements. Since the left thumb is busy and you’re already holding down fn, using the pinky to hold down “shift” to toggle selecting text is easy to understand (for me).

Still trying it out. Already thinking Tab isn’t good there because I keep hitting it by mistake, but really prefer moving bksp to the function layer because I’d be hitting that by mistake all the time instead.

Also really need an alternate way to do parens. They’re pretty common. Have tried space cadet on me mech keyboard and removed it because I would hit that by accident more than on purpose.

Next up is figuring out how to physically place the keyboard. So far nothing has felt quite “right”, although there’s a lot to adjust to, obviously. I’m thinking it might be better to start flat and add the feet later, but trial and error.

I also switched to Colemak a few weeks ago so I’ve been seriously blowing up my productivity, but I’ve enjoyed the input method rabbit hole I’ve gone down.

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/c53eefd3e27e030ae390ea35bef696f5

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Hey @platypuxbepo thank you for your share. I’m looking for a good bépo layout. Like yours. But I checked you github and you didn’t put it. Could you please ? Do you still maintain it ?
I love the fact that – if I well understood – I can say to my OS that my keyboard should be in bépo and that the keyboardio will still work with the wanted configuration. Because I am on a laptop + Model01. And I want to don’t have to switch the layout of the laptop when my Model01 isn’t connected.

Could you also explain to me what to do to import your configuration please ? Just change the .ino and flash the keyboard ??

Thanks a lot bro !

PS : bépo user for life <3 and new programmer

Hi, @Kalri.

If you don’t get any satisfaction, you could try https://github.com/andrewgdotcom/Model01-Firmware - it should work out of the box with your BÉPO OS layout. Feedback welcome!

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Hi @andrewg,

Thank you very much for your post ! That’s kind of you.
I was beginning to desperate to have one day a proper bépo layout on my Model01 …!
I will try it and come back to you. Hope that you fixed the removed /avr. Because I tried to install the bépo version of C3ltic but there was problems with it. Or I did something wrong :slight_smile: And as I do not manage to contact him …
You may save my – keyboard – life :smiley: (I spend more than 20 hours with no results…)
We stay in touch,
Thanks !

The default layout should work the same as Celtic’s under BÉPO OS. I try to keep up to date with master, but it is a little behind at the moment. If there are any fatal errors, let me know ASAP and I’ll fix them.

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I’m sharing my current layout in bépo. Some keys are blank because I bought an ergonomic touchpad and I don’t know yet where I will set it (on right thumb or on index) and I will remove 2 keys to be more accessible.

Do not hesitate to ask why I set the different key notably on homerow, fn, numpad, thumb keys, there is a reason for each.

The link on last updated version (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/831524ae41aec20a65ff519557db7f50) and it is not final depending on my personal feedbacks.

Maybe I missed something, but it looks like you have only one AltGr key, which is accessed by holding R. This appears to leave you with no way to type a ® character.

Thank you for the feedback. You are right. I did not realize I can’t do ® with my layout (honestly I don’t care). I made it with my old keyboard. But I realized I can’t do also Alt+U.

Hi All! I’ve got a few weeks using this layout and it’s still a work in progress but I’m enjoying it so far. Let me know what you think and any suggestions!

noteable aspects:
-mirrorred MTGAP/BEAKL layout for 30 alpha keys, wanted space on lefthand and opposite /.;,
-oneshot thumb modifiers
-homerow QuKeys modifiers and layers
-not using palm keys because I initially found the inward pronation uncomfortable compared to homerow access
-nav layer is nice for traversing text files
-punctuation layer
-mouse layer with clipboard shortcuts, plan to add a few more like ‘cut line’
-not sure what to do with butterfly key yet

graphic:


http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/58b1a25d332f1840d27f6995ab72d7a9

firmware:

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I’m always delighted to see someone using home-row Qukeys. Has that been working well for you so far?

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It’s working pretty well so far but I’m going to reserve judgement until I’m up to full typing speed on the new key layout. Only issue has been a few accidental "ctrl+n"s when typing ‘ine’ but nothing else unintended.

If you’re not getting any unintended letter keys when you’re using them for modifiers, you could try decreasing the release delay. That might reduce incidence of unintended modifiers.

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I should also add that there’s a rewrite of Qukeys waiting to be merged, which ought to reduce instances of unintended Qukeys output.

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My suggestion would be to see how it feels to swap apostrophe/quote with colon/semicolon if the QWERTY positioning of the pinky shift over for apostrophe is not too ingrained. The index finger is much more easily able to reach across and down than the pinky is at reaching across (or at least mine, YMMV), so doing contractions with it would feel much more natural if your hand is like mine.

Also A and J are almost never used consecutively with apostrophes, and though U sometimes is (you’d, you’ve, you’ll, you’re), it’s even more common with I and Y (I’ll, I’ve, I’d, I’m, they’ll, they’d, they’ve, they’re) so you’d be using the same finger twice in a row less often if you did that change.